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Post by Admin on Oct 4, 2024 12:43:19 GMT
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Post by jeff on Oct 4, 2024 15:30:42 GMT
It would be interesting to compare totally colonized Congo to African countries that have/had socialist governments.
Libya was clearly the most successful, until destroyed by NATO.
I wonder how Eritrea, Algeria, Mozambique and Angola are doing?
Ethiopia was never really colonized and seems to being progressing.
I lived and worked in Algeria 1985-1990. It was incredibly corrupt at the higher levels, but so rich that they could keep it going.
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Post by peterman on Oct 4, 2024 16:22:07 GMT
To change their lives, people must first change their minds. It is easier said than done. A wise man said, "It's easier to move mountains than to change a person's mind." It's hard to convince people to sacrifice their privilege, wealth and even life to enrich others who could care less and would just as soon eat their neighbors for lunch. It's the way of Nature and animals. To survive as a species, we must learn to transcend Nature and not act like animals. As the saying goes, "Dying is easy; revolution is hard."
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Post by peterman on Oct 4, 2024 19:51:55 GMT
Comment by Frank Scott:
"to survive as a species, we must learn to transcend Nature and not act like animals.”
hardly the fault of animal nature since most animals - and we are animals - are not capitalist-feudalist-ruling minorities but overwhelming majorities who need to create revolutions by acting like human animals concerned with survival of the race which is the only way to guarantee survival in the personal sense.
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To state a fact is not to blame or accuse. I hope I have not insinuated animals are at fault for being animals. Human beings are animals and it is our nature to act as animals. Which is why we need to understand and believe we can transcend our nature; otherwise, we will follow the path of successful animals and eventually become extinct. It is also the way of Nature.
Here is a simplistic explanation. Animals and, in fact, all living organisms must be economical to survive. Nature provides an almost inexhaustible possibility of survival strategies, including capitalism, feudalism and slavery. One successful strategy is to eat smaller neighbors. Unless one becomes too successful and eats up all the neighbors and starve oneself to death. Unfettered success brings its own demise. This struggle for survival in a world of limited resources is the root cause of wars. It's animal nature.
However, looking at the big picture, the human race already produces much more food than it can consume. If we don't, we would not be able to sustain our current population (and our destructive and non-productive wars). Regional or local hunger and penury are the result of capitalism, uneven distribution and waste. We already have the technology and wherewithal to overcome these shortcomings. In a sense, the root cause for the struggle to survive no longer exists for humans. Theoretically, we don't need to kill each other, and everyone in the world can survive in peace. Food is enough if not aplenty for everyone (especially if we don't have wars). The reason why we have wars of all kinds all over the world is because most of us are animals and will eat our smaller neighbors when we have the urge. If we don't change our minds and transcend our animal nature, we will go the way of Nature. Nothing wrong, of course. It is what it is. And that's why "Dying is easy; revolution is hard." And revolution starts from changing our minds, which, as a wise man says, is harder than moving mountains.
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Post by jeff on Oct 5, 2024 15:46:50 GMT
The problem has a lot to do with most of the world adopting neoliberal capitalism to run their societies.
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Post by peterman on Oct 5, 2024 22:36:59 GMT
It has everything to do with not understanding the root cause for war no longer exists for the human race. But making such a world possible requires a revolution, and revolution starts from changing one's mind, to transcend one's animal nature, which, unfortunately, is harder than moving mountains.
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Post by jeff on Oct 6, 2024 11:23:52 GMT
Yes, but advanced capitalism needs war to survive. Otherwise, it grinds to a halt.
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Post by peterman on Oct 6, 2024 16:37:51 GMT
But no one wants to think about or believe in the fact the root cause for war no longer exist for the human race, and how we, as a species, should work together for better survival by living in peace, rather than submit to our animal nature and insist on wars, which will not help capitalism (or any other system) and likely destroy ourselves. It is indeed easier to move mountains than to change a person's mind.
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