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Post by chetozmun on Nov 13, 2024 2:06:51 GMT
I'm trying to come to China for the first time in the summer of 2025 for a few months. I can't afford to just go for tourism. I need to make money teaching English while I'm there. Originally I had hoped to get an official teaching job but it's looking like most schools require a one-year contract commitment. Several friends in China have recommended that I simply come on a tourist visa, then get under-the-table work teaching English on an hourly basis. I'm confident I have enough contacts to make that feasible, but my concern is about the risks involved, legality, etc. Obviously this kind of thing is extremely common in the US, but I'm not sure about how risky it is in China, so I wanted to ask all the seasoned experts here. Any advice at all would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by jeff on Nov 13, 2024 11:21:00 GMT
Chet,
Do not violate the visa regs. Otherwise, you can get blacklisted for future visas. It's not worth it.
One solution: live close to Hong Kong or Macau and every two weeks, cross the border and come back in the same day.
Shenzhen and Zhuhai are perfect for this.
I'm happy to help you with ideas. Lemme know.
Jeff
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Post by chetozmun on Nov 15, 2024 16:49:00 GMT
Hi Jeff, thanks for the feedback. So, when you say "cross the border", do you mean cross the border into HK or Macau and teach English there, where it wouldn't be in violation of my tourist visa?
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Post by jeff on Nov 19, 2024 9:13:44 GMT
Chet, as you know, I responded to you by email. With a US passport, you have to get a visa to get into China. Your only hope is to find an employer to get a work permit, which entitles you to a resident permit.
This is possible even for a short duty job.
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Post by peterman on Nov 20, 2024 21:22:13 GMT
When I lived in China, I helped a Belgian university graduate (son of a friend of a friend) spend six months in Beijing (European graduates like to adventure a bit before settling down to work for a living). Since I was good friends with the chairman of Beijing Concord College of Sino-Canada (who has since retired to live in Toronto), I asked them if they could hire the boy as a tutor. They ended up paying him USD 500 per month as expenses with a dorm room at the Tongzhou campus. It was a great experience and didn't cost the boy anything.
The Concord College is the first high school in China to issue duo diplomas for China and Canada. It has developed many branches all over the country. Jeff had taught at their International school in Nanshan, Shenzhen, where we met for the first time. What a small world!
The chairman, Francis Pang, is the third of five brothers in a family of Chinese Canadians from Hong Kong. His elder brother, Michael Pang (recently passed, RIP), owned the first foreign broadcast technologies companies to do business in China (since 1981). It dominated the market for many years and is still significant in several sectors. I worked in one of Michael's China subsidiaries. Michael was an investor and director of the Sino-Canada schools and introduced me to Francis and the other brothers in his family.
Francis spends most of his time in Toronto nowadays. I'm not sure if this is any help, but working for short periods as a tutor may be the approach, seeking not so much for pay as an accredited teacher but a place to stay, which could be expensive, especially in first tier cities.
Peter Man
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Post by jeff on Nov 21, 2024 5:37:38 GMT
Chet,
Why don't you and and the family move to China for a year or two?
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